{"id":2768,"date":"2009-07-01T11:20:00","date_gmt":"2009-07-01T14:20:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/?p=2768"},"modified":"2020-06-08T00:29:45","modified_gmt":"2020-06-08T03:29:45","slug":"romaji-in-njihove-pasti","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/o-romaji-e-suas-armadilhas\/","title":{"rendered":"Romaji in njegove pasti"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"a8d57f2815830ab33b1e7afc05ed7716\" data-index=\"2\" style=\"float: none; margin:0px;\">\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-0652292147574552\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- Ads responsivo Inicio Post CAJap -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-0652292147574552\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"3298668993\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>Mnogi med nami \u017ee vedo,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/nihongo-romaji-papel\/\">vloga romaji v jeziku nihongo<\/a>\u00a0(\u65e5\u672c\u8a9e) je pomo\u010d pri branju in izgovarjavi japonskih simbolov in ne nadome\u0161\u010danje japonske pisave z na\u0161imi romaniziranimi znaki. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/romaji-armadilhas-japoneses-lendo.jpg?resize=300%2C200&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Romad\u017ei in njegove pasti - japonsko branje\" class=\"wp-image-2772\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/romaji-armadilhas-japoneses-lendo.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/romaji-armadilhas-japoneses-lendo.jpg?resize=320%2C214&amp;ssl=1 320w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/romaji-armadilhas-japoneses-lendo.jpg?resize=360%2C240&amp;ssl=1 360w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/romaji-armadilhas-japoneses-lendo.jpg?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>To povzro\u010da \u0161tevilne te\u017eave in lahko znatno ovira razvoj na\u0161e sposobnosti branja in pisanja v pravem japonskem jeziku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Zakaj se to zgodi?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Kljub temu da se zavedajo negativnih vidikov, mnogi u\u010denci japon\u0161\u010dine \u0161e vedno vztrajajo pri uporabi romad\u017eija v vsakdanjem \u017eivljenju, s \u010dimer nekako nadome\u0161\u010dajo japonski na\u010din pisanja s kand\u017eijem namesto \u010drk na\u0161e naravne abecede.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To se zgodi iz razli\u010dnih razlogov, kot je pomanjkanje\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/napisati-japonska-okna\/\">podpora japon\u0161\u010dini v sodobnih operacijskih sistemih.<\/a>Nepoznavanje drugih orodij IME za pisanje v japon\u0161\u010dini, kot so\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/wakan-ferramenta-para-aprender-japones-gratis\/\">wakan<\/a>\u00a0in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/ajax-ime-pisite-v-japonscini-na-racunalniku\/\">ajax ime<\/a>; ali celo lenoba, da bi dostopali do teh programov in uporabljali japonski jezik, kot je treba.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Zdaj se pojavi nova te\u017eava<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Pred kratkim sem opazil novo te\u017eavo, ki jo lahko povzro\u010di romaji. \u010ce se romaji uporablja druga\u010de, kot je prvotno predvideno, lahko zmoti prevod stavkov in posameznih delov besedila.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dejstvo je, da ima lahko kanji ve\u010d razli\u010dnih izgovorov, zato obstaja mo\u017enost, da ima ve\u010d kanjijev enak izgovor, kar je odvisno od besedne zveze in konteksta besed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vzemite svoj najljub\u0161i japonski slovar in poi\u0161\u010dite besedo \u304d. Verjetno bomo na\u0161li veliko \u0161tevilo kanjijev, kot so \u6728, \u6c17, \u8a18 ...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Enaka te\u017eava se lahko pojavi tudi v preprostej\u0161ih stavkih, pri katerih kontekst ni znan. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ste kdaj poskusili vzeti stavek v romaji in ga pretvoriti v kanji? Rezultat je lahko popolna zme\u0161njava.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Za la\u017ejo predstavo lahko s podporo za japon\u0161\u010dino v sistemu Windows napi\u0161ete besedo \u6771\u4eac z izgovarjavo&nbsp;<strong>Higashi myiako<\/strong>ki je poleg tega, da je popolnoma neskladen, tudi ne obstaja v standardnih uradnih berilih na Japonskem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Najbolj zanimivo je, da ta te\u017eava prizadene tako za\u010detnike kot naprednej\u0161e u\u010dence\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/marugoto\/\">Japonski jezik<\/a>. Tudi Japonci se zapletajo pri izgovorjavi kanjijev, ki niso v skladu z <a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/simboli-jouyou-kanji\/\">Jouyou Kanji<\/a>\u00a0(1.945 uradnih japonskih kanjijev, ki niso preve\u010d znani).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Kako zmanj\u0161ati to te\u017eavo z romaji<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Glede na svoje izku\u0161nje z japon\u0161\u010dino sem lahko ugotovil, da sta dva na\u010dina za zmanj\u0161anje zmede pri prevajanju besedila v japon\u0161\u010dino. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prvi je, da vedno uporabljate besedila, napisana v kanji, in se veliko ukvarjate z japonskim jezikom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>1. Pri u\u010denju japon\u0161\u010dine se raje poslu\u017eujte besedil, napisanih v kanji.<\/strong><br \/>Pri pisanju s kanjijem je prevod la\u017eji in ne ogro\u017ea branja, saj nam kanji posreduje jasnej\u0161o predstavo o pomenu stavka. \u010ce je besedilo opremljeno z zvo\u010dnim zapisom, je to \u0161e toliko bolje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Poleg tega se z besednimi zvezami, napisanimi v japon\u0161\u010dini, la\u017eje nau\u010dite novih kand\u017eijev z branjem besedil, kar lahko romaji ovira. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Veliko la\u017eje je najti pomen kanjija v slovarju po samem kanjiju kot po njegovi izgovorjavi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u010ce ste navajeni brati spletna mesta v kanji in imate te\u017eave pri odkrivanju izgovarjave japonskih simbolov, vam priporo\u010dam uporabo vti\u010dnika Mozilla Firefox, kot je\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/furigana-injector-adicione-furigana-na-web\/\">Vbrizgalnik Furigana<\/a>\u00a0ali strani, kot so\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/add-furigana-with-hiragan-megane\/\">hiragana megane<\/a>ki samodejno vstavljajo furigane v spletna mesta in besedila kanji.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>2. \u017divite in se \u010dim ve\u010d ukvarjajte z japonskim jezikom<\/strong><br \/>Veliko teh nejasnosti lahko zmanj\u0161amo, \u010de \u017eivimo z jezikom ali \u010de poznamo kontekst stavkov, zaradi \u010desar je pisno vsebino veliko la\u017eje razumeti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Po tej logiki morda ne poznamo kanjija ali besede v romaji, vendar lahko z razumevanjem konteksta razumemo sporo\u010dilo besedila, tudi \u010de vsebuje neznane besede.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Zaklju\u010dek<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Ponovno opa\u017eam pomanjkljivosti pri u\u010denju japonskega jezika zaradi pretirane uporabe romaji. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pri u\u010denju japon\u0161\u010dine s pomo\u010djo besedil posku\u0161ajte brati besedila, spletne strani in knjige, ki so napisane v kanjiju. S tem si boste prihranili te\u017eave in izgubo \u010dasa zaradi uporabe romad\u017eija. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Poleg tega se boste z uporabo kand\u017eijev vedno bolj pribli\u017eali pravi japon\u0161\u010dini.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u307e\u305f\u306d\uff01<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"font-size:14px\"><small>Slike so zasluge\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/cafedumonde\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Caf\u00e9 du Monde<\/a>.<\/small><\/p>\n\n<div style=\"font-size: 0px; height: 0px; line-height: 0px; margin: 0; padding: 0; clear: both;\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kot mnogi \u017ee vemo, je vloga romaji v jeziku nihongo (\u65e5\u672c\u8a9e) pomo\u010d pri branju in izgovarjavi japonskih simbolov in ne nadome\u0161\u010danje japonske pisave z na\u0161imi romaniziranimi znaki. To povzro\u010da ve\u010d te\u017eav<\/p>","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":2772,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[92,99],"class_list":["post-2768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-japones","tag-lingua-japonesa","tag-romaji"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/romaji-armadilhas-japoneses-lendo.jpg?fit=400%2C267&ssl=1","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2762,"url":"https:\/\/comoaprenderjapones.net\/sl\/nihongo-romaji-papel\/","url_meta":{"origin":2768,"position":0},"title":"Romaji in njegova vloga v nihongu","author":"L\u00edngua Japonesa","date":"2 de februar de 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"O romaji \u00e9 simplesmente uma forma de mostrar como falar as palavras japonesas usando as letras do nosso alfabeto. 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